{"id":1583,"date":"2021-05-06T22:41:49","date_gmt":"2021-05-06T20:41:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/?p=1583"},"modified":"2021-06-19T05:10:47","modified_gmt":"2021-06-19T03:10:47","slug":"history-from-below-01","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/?p=1583","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The Montanists Were Real and Scriptural Christians,\u201d John Wesley Said!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWednesday 15 \u2013 By reflecting on an odd book which I had read in this journey,\u00a0<em>The General Delusion of Christians with Regard to Prophesy<\/em>, I was fully convinced of what I had long suspected: (1) that the Montanists, in the second and third centuries, were\u00a0<em>real<\/em>,\u00a0<em>scriptural<\/em>\u00a0Christians\u2026.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0In fact, this is not my own opinion, but Wesley\u2019s! John Wesley wrote these words in his journal in August 1750. In addition, he testified that \u201cMontanus, who \u2018appeared (without bringing any new doctrine)\u00a0<em>for reviving<\/em>\u00a0what was decayed, and\u00a0<em>reformed<\/em>\u00a0what might be amiss,\u2019 was \u2018not only a truly good man, but one of the\u00a0<em>best<\/em>\u00a0men then upon earth.\u2019\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a>\u00a0For me, as a Coptic Wesleyan Charismatic, I cannot deny that\u00a0when I read these words for the first time, nearly ten years ago, I found myself in a maze. My \u201cvery\u201d Orthodox family background, which interweaves with my Coptic roots, firmly tried to hinder any tendency to accept the exoneration of those condemned by different schools of classical Church historiography. On the other hand, my Wesleyan Charismatic enthusiasm created a propensity to examine Wesley\u2019s opinion that might offer backing to this\u00a0<em>Pentecostal-like<\/em>\u00a0ancient group. It is worth mentioning that my Wesleyan Charismatic enthusiasm has\u00a0<em>conquered<\/em>\u00a0and pushed me to examine the reasons behind Wesley&#8217;s opinion, and the following is my conclusion in brief points.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>I.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 <\/strong><strong>The emergence of the New Prophecy\/ Montanism:<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The \u201cProphecy\u201d movement emerged in Phrygia, Asia Minor, during the 160s, when its founder, Montanus, began prophesying in an ecstatic state. Priscilla and Maximilla soon joined Montanus as two prophetesses, and the movement had spread within a few decades to many regions including Rome and North Africa.<a href=\"#_ftn3\" name=\"_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a>\u00a0Around the year 207, \u201cthe movement won a powerful advocate Tertullian, who was attracted by its asceticism and apocalypticism.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn4\" name=\"_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a>\u00a0The prophecy movement was condemned as a\u00a0<em>heresy<\/em>\u00a0by many early bishops and writers (e.g. Eusebius, Apolinarius of Hierapolis, Apollonius, and Serapion of Antioch \/\u00a0<em>Eccl. His<\/em>. 5: 16, 18, 19) and the Montanists were officially\u00a0<em>excommunicated<\/em>\u00a0by the Synod of Iconium in 230.<a href=\"#_ftn5\">[5]<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>II.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0<\/strong><strong>Did the movement embrace heretic dogmas?<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Many sources testify that the\u00a0<em>Trinitarian<\/em>\u00a0dogma of the New Prophecy people was\u00a0<em>orthodox<\/em>, as well as their\u00a0<em>Christological<\/em>\u00a0belief. Even many of their contemporary opponents (e.g. Epiphanius and Hippolytus of Rome) agreed on that. The Montanists accepted all the scriptures of the OT and NT and were against non-orthodox belief such as Docetism.<a href=\"#_ftn6\" name=\"_ftnref6\">[6]<\/a>\u00a0Philip Schaff testified that \u201cIn doctrine Montanism agreed in all essential points with the Catholic Church and held very firmly to the traditional role of faith.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn7\" name=\"_ftnref7\">[7]<\/a>\u00a0Christine Trevett emphasizes that the \u201cmost ardent critics admitted that the New Prophecy was not a heresy.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn8\" name=\"_ftnref8\">[8]<\/a>\u00a0Dale Coulter stresses that \u201cthey did not preach any other God.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn9\" name=\"_ftnref9\">[9]<\/a>\u00a0In fact, Tertullian\u2019s Montanist writings (e.g.\u00a0<em>Adversus Praxean<\/em>) in which he formulated the doctrine of the Trinity became crucial in the development of the orthodox thought.<a href=\"#_ftn10\" name=\"_ftnref10\">[10]<\/a>\u00a0Therefore, I do not think it is going too far to say that the Prophecy movement was not a heresy.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>III.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 <\/strong><strong>Teachings of the New Prophecy<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Well; if Montanism was not a heresy, what were its distinctive ideas that have moved many to condemn it? The most distinctive teaching of Montanism could be summarized as follows:<\/p>\r\n<ul style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\r\n<li>The\u00a0<em>ecstatic state<\/em>\u00a0of prophesying: Montanus understood prophesying, exclusively, to be an ecstatic experience, in which prophets\u00a0<em>lose<\/em>\u00a0their sensation and become totally captured in a\u00a0<em>trance-like<\/em>\u00a0state.<a href=\"#_ftn11\" name=\"_ftnref11\">[11]<\/a>\u00a0Actually, this was odd for many, such as Eusebius who described it as \u201cprophesying contrary to the custom of the Church according to the tradition and the succession of the Church from the beginning\u201d [<em>Eccl. His<\/em>. 5: 16].<\/li>\r\n<li>Emphasizing\u00a0<em>fasting<\/em>\u00a0and connecting it with the\u00a0<em>receipt of secrets<\/em>. \u201cFasting and revelation are linked.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn12\" name=\"_ftnref12\">[12]<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>Re-marriage was\u00a0<em>uncompromisingly<\/em>\u00a0rejected.<a href=\"#_ftn13\" name=\"_ftnref13\">[13]<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>Less tendency to forgive or\u00a0<em>restore apostates<\/em>,<a href=\"#_ftn14\" name=\"_ftnref14\">[14]<\/a>\u00a0and strong emphasis that only the \u201cchurch of the Spirit\u201d has the right to bind and loose.<a href=\"#_ftn15\" name=\"_ftnref15\">[15]<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>Strong emphasis on the Paraclete\/ Spirit of Truth\u2019s promises in the\u00a0<em>Johannine tradition<\/em>; the\u00a0<em>Paraclete\u00a0<\/em>will guide believers into a mature understanding of the scriptures. Therefore, according to Tertullian, there is a place for\u00a0<em>novelty<\/em>\u00a0as long as it is in\u00a0<em>harmony<\/em>\u00a0with the Rule of Faith.<a href=\"#_ftn16\" name=\"_ftnref16\">[16]<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>The \u201chighly original feature of the Montanist Eschatology\u201d was the expectation that fulfillment of apocalyptic promises would come soon, and the\u00a0<em>New Jerusalem<\/em>\u00a0would descend at Pepuza; an eschatology that put Jerusalem at the\u00a0<em>center<\/em>\u00a0instead of Rome.<a href=\"#_ftn17\" name=\"_ftnref17\">[17]<\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>IV.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0<\/strong><strong>Why did they call them heretics?<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Although the Montanists were extremists in some ideas and practices, they were orthodox in the\u00a0<em>essential\u00a0<\/em>Christian doctrines, and their extremity in practices definitely does not enable us to describe them as heretics. If this was the case, why did the church consider them heretics at that time? Some scholarly suggestions could be summarized as follows.<\/p>\r\n<ul style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\r\n<li>Christine Trevett highlights that Montanism emerged in the midst of the process of\u00a0<em>consolidation<\/em>\u00a0of authority in hands of male clergy, and she argues that (1)\u00a0<em>freedom and authority of women<\/em>\u00a0and (2)\u00a0<em>democratization of charisma<\/em>\u00a0in Montanism represented a threat for monepiscopacy.\u00a0Dale Coulter alludes to the same point referring to Trevett\u2019s emphasis that the conflict between the New Prophets and the developing Catholic tradition was not due to heresies but\u00a0<em>authority<\/em>.<a href=\"#_ftn18\" name=\"_ftnref18\">[18]<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>Lucien Jinkwang Kim suggests that the early church was convinced that any agreement with the Montanist emphasis on the continuous revelation of the Spirit could\u00a0<em>hinder<\/em>\u00a0the move towards\u00a0<em>canonization<\/em>.<a href=\"#_ftn19\" name=\"_ftnref19\">[19]<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>Rex D. Butler mentions Adolf Harnack\u2019s argument that the main conflict was because of the developing Catholic tendency towards\u00a0<em>secularization<\/em>\u00a0vs the Montanist desire towards\u00a0<em>total separation<\/em>\u00a0from the world;<a href=\"#_ftn20\" name=\"_ftnref20\">[20]<\/a>\u00a0a suggestion which, I think, does not seem to be appropriate to describe the\u00a0<em>first stages<\/em>\u00a0of Catholicism.<\/li>\r\n<li>I think what Trevett and Kim suggested, in addition to biased historiography that focuses on institutional history, could produce this kind of unfair assessment which falsely attributed a heretic nature to Montanism.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Could fu{&#8220;type&#8221;:&#8221;block&#8221;,&#8221;srcClientIds&#8221;:[&#8220;1252961c-f79c-46f6-a7a8-c0894335d96c&#8221;],&#8221;srcRootClientId&#8221;:&#8221;&#8221;}rther historical and theological studies fully prove Wesley\u2019s argument? Who knows?!<a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\"><\/a><\/p>\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-text-color has-background has-black-background-color has-black-color is-style-wide\" \/>\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">References<\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" data-type=\"internal\" data-id=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0Journal of the Rev. John Wesley, August 15, 1750, cited in Robert Tuttle, \u201cJohn Wesley and the Gifts of the Holy Spirit,\u201d UCMPAGE, http:\/\/ucmpage.org\/articles\/rtuttle1.html (last accessed June 18, 2015).<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a>\u00a0John Wesley,\u00a0<em>The Works of the Rev. John Wesley<\/em>, 3<sup>rd<\/sup>\u00a0Edition, ed. Thomas Jackson, 14 vols., CD-ROM edition (Albany, Oregon: Ages Software, 1997), 11: 485, cited in Lucien Jinkwang Kim, \u201cIs Montanism A Heretical Sect Or Pentecostal Antecedent?,\u201d\u00a0<em>AJPS<\/em>\u00a012 (2009): 121.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a>\u00a0Dale M. Coulter, \u201cMontanism,\u201d\u00a0<em>YouTube<\/em>, Online video, https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Ut8dOkHvc4o&amp;feature=youtu.be (accessed 14, 15, 17, 18 June 2015) and Kim, 115.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a>\u00a0Kim, 115.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref5\">[5]<\/a>\u00a0Ibid, 113.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref6\">[6]<\/a>\u00a0Christine Trevett, \u201cGender, authority and Church History: A Case Study of Montanism,\u201d\u00a0<em>Feminist Theology<\/em>\u00a06 (1998): 13.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref7\" data-type=\"internal\" data-id=\"#_ftnref7\">[7]<\/a>\u00a0Philip Schaff,\u00a0<em>Church History\u00a0<\/em>(Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Erdman Pub. Co., 1970), 421, cited in Erich Nestler, \u201cWas Montanism A Heresy?,\u201d PNEUMA 6 (1984): 73.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref8\">[8]<\/a>\u00a0Ibid.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref9\">[9]<\/a>\u00a0Coulter, \u201cMontanism.\u201d<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref10\">[10]<\/a>\u00a0Paul McKechnie, \u201cWomen\u2019s Religion and Second-Century Christians,\u201d\u00a0<em>Journal of Ecclesiastical History<\/em>\u00a047 (1996): 410.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref11\">[11]<\/a>\u00a0Coulter, \u201cMontanism.\u201d<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref12\">[12]<\/a>\u00a0Christine Trevett,\u00a0<em>Montanism: Gender, authority and the New Prophecy<\/em>\u00a0(Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1996), 106-107.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref13\" data-type=\"internal\" data-id=\"#_ftnref13\">[13]<\/a>\u00a0Ibid, 113.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref14\">[14]<\/a>\u00a0Coulter, \u201cMontanism.\u201d<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref15\" data-type=\"internal\" data-id=\"#_ftnref15\">[15]<\/a>\u00a0Trevett,\u00a0<em>Montanism<\/em>, 117.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref16\">[16]<\/a>\u00a0Coulter, \u201cMontanism.\u201d<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Users\/th_m_\/Desktop\/PhD\/all\/Regent\/Coulter%20-%20Early%20Christianity\/6th%20week\/The%20Montanists%20Are%20Real%20and%20Scriptural%20Christians.doc#_ftnref17\">[1<\/a><a href=\"#_ftnref17\">7<\/a><a href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Users\/th_m_\/Desktop\/PhD\/all\/Regent\/Coulter%20-%20Early%20Christianity\/6th%20week\/The%20Montanists%20Are%20Real%20and%20Scriptural%20Christians.doc#_ftnref17\">]<\/a>\u00a0Trevett,\u00a0<em>Montanism<\/em>, 95 and Coulter, \u201cMontanism.\u201d<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref18\">[18]<\/a>\u00a0Trevett, \u201cGender, authority,\u201d 13, 14 and Coulter, \u201cMontanism.\u201d<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref19\">[19]<\/a>\u00a0Kim, 115.<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"#_ftnref20\">[20]<\/a>\u00a0Rex D. Butler,\u00a0<em>The New Prophecy &amp; New Visions: Evidence of Montanism in the Passion of Perpetua and Felicitas<\/em>\u00a0(Washington, D.C.: The Catholic University of America Press, 2000), 19.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cWednesday 15 \u2013 By reflecting on an odd book which I had read in this journey,\u00a0The General Delusion of Christians with Regard to Prophesy, I was fully convinced of what I had long suspected: (1) that the Montanists, in the second and third centuries, were\u00a0real,\u00a0scriptural\u00a0Christians\u2026.\u201d[1]\u00a0In fact, this is not my own opinion, but Wesley\u2019s! John [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1215,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"default","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"default","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[14,10],"tags":[16,15,18],"class_list":["post-1583","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-history-from-below","category-theological-studies","tag-history-from-below","tag-theological-studies","tag-wesley"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1583","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1583"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1583\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1960,"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1583\/revisions\/1960"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/1215"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1583"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1583"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heavenuponearth.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1583"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}